what's f*cked up about being a pisces

topic posted Wed, June 8, 2005 - 3:15 AM by  kalapule
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what's fucked up about it is being sensitive to other people's feelings and needs that it feels like you're getting dumped on day in and day out and then have to deal with your own shit too.

tired of this shit already
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    Wed, June 8, 2005 - 10:14 PM
    How right you are about being sensitive to other people's feelings, and most people just don't get HOW we feel! Sometimes we just have to put a psychic protective cloak around ourselves so that we can get through the day without a melt-down of sympathy for the plight of others. We do have the right to respect and care for ourselves. It is our choice how MUCH we involve ourselves and how much we ALLOW others to dump on us. We're only doormats if we allow ourselves to be!
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      Wed, June 8, 2005 - 10:16 PM
      Bravo, Kate. Well-spoken.
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        Wed, June 8, 2005 - 10:18 PM

        Yes! Congratulation to Kate!! :))

        Everybody can choose what they allow to be done to themselfes!
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          Fri, June 10, 2005 - 1:49 PM
          Yay Adrienne , I second and third your motion.
          I can feel you ............one funny deal is when I tell them to f*ck off , they get totally perplexed because they do not expect that from me..............no more Mr Nice guy , if you are gonna f*ck me at least I should be kissed...........;-)
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            Fri, June 10, 2005 - 2:20 PM
            I hear you Ruben... At least I think I do...

            I want to share a funny deal, too... I'm one of those pisces that has a good sense of humor, and some people with whom I work target that for their own day to day jabs and such.. but when someone goes too far and I let them know, by a look or non-response, what 'they' said or did isn't funny... then they immediately jump to the defensive and deferr... saying I'm too sensitive and need to lighten up, or toughen up. It's so weird. Often confusing me for when I AM being too sensitive and need to do a 'self check'.
            Something like this was spoken about in another thread... Like being called a "hard boiled egg." Ugh... I hope that made sense - It's friday. Thanks for reading
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              Sun, June 12, 2005 - 2:13 PM
              >>... I'm one of those pisces that has a good sense of humor, and some people with whom I work target that for their own day to day jabs and such.. but when someone goes too far and I let them know, by a look or non-response, what 'they' said or did isn't funny... then they immediately jump to the defensive and deferr... saying I'm too sensitive and need to lighten up, or toughen up. It's so weird.

              WOW, So well said Derek! I have a similar experience!sheesh! I don't appreciate it when someone makes me wrong for setting/maintaining a boundary. It does feel really good though, when I'm aware of the dynamic, to just let those judgements roll off my back and remember that it's their drama, and I don't have to be an endless fountain of mirth for anyone.
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                Sun, June 12, 2005 - 4:32 PM
                Everyone expects us to be like them.... and I can't..... I'm vastly more complicated and they just don't get it!
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                  Sun, June 12, 2005 - 4:52 PM
                  people think that because we are mostly concerned about things not material, that we are bereft of vision or "ambition" as most define it.
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                    Tue, June 14, 2005 - 9:04 AM
                    benjy and cece, that has been the greatest cause of grief in my life.

                    also,have you noticed (not to sound superior or anything) that the world kinda catches up to you on it's own years after it has persecuted you? i was doing in the mid 80's what folks are doing now and back then they called me a freak cause i was pierced and my hair was died and i didn't wanna do the matirialistic thing of the 80's....
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                      Tue, June 14, 2005 - 9:17 AM
                      starfish~ my main problem is that i cannot explain my intuitions *at all*..i'm not scientific nor mathemathical, but 90 percent of the time, my intuition is right. so wheni say "go left" (when everyone else is going right), people look at me like a nut. of course, being a pisces, i don't argue the point (i'm also libra rising and gemini moon), only for everyone to fine out later on that i was right to begin with. but, just because i cannot logically justifiy my intuitions or decisions, people think they're not viable. frustrating.
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                        Tue, June 14, 2005 - 10:48 AM
                        YEP i hear you lound and clear on his one! this is super hard when we are little kids too. oh boy was that tough for me my parents both being logical/intellectual engineers and me being all intuition as a child. but i persevered. what else can you do really? you go other ways but you just keep coming back to your senses. it's scarry sometimes how right we can be! other's just have to get to know you over time and trust you. i've made some really deep friendships where i can be myself...whatever that is in that moment...hehe...and they trust me. i guess you just have to trust yourself too. that's so hard when hardly anyone ever agrees or reafirms what you are.
                        i'm glad to know i'm not alone in this! :-)
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                          Tue, June 14, 2005 - 10:52 AM
                          nope. you're not alone. one thing i've been learning over the years is to increasingly trust my intuition. like you said, it can be hard sometimes, particularly because most of the time...people are swimming the other way. AND, somehow we seemingly could not substantiate our intuition with IF THIS, THEREFORE THAT kind of formula. at times like that, i reach out to my fellow pisces for backup support to validate that i'm not crazy, but rather, i'm right.
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                        Wed, June 10, 2009 - 4:31 PM
                        I know just what you mean. I would get so upset with my girlfriend because 98% of the time I'd intuitively know something and suggest it to her and she would totally ignore it and then days later or so it would happen just like I said and as much as I want to say I told you so.. I don't because we as pisces hate to be told that ourselves and we treat others how we really want to be treated. But I think that need to be right has alot to do with my Venus in Aries. If you know anything about Aries you know he thinks he's right about everything
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    Fri, June 10, 2005 - 2:27 PM
    what's fucked up is that we believe too much what other's think we are or SHOULD be...it's like saying i don't have an identity -make me what you want me to be...sure that is great if you are an actor getting paid for it...

    damn, i've always been the in your face type like aries, i stand up for myself but deep inside hate conflict like a libra...i love balance - i can be a real selfish bitch at times too with a sarcastic scorpio sting. remember there are two fish. get em to befriend one another and you will feel a lot more 'whole'.

    glub, glub....
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      Sat, June 11, 2005 - 8:51 AM
      They need to love us first, and not the reverse.
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        Sun, June 12, 2005 - 6:03 PM
        I think what's fucked up is not having a poker face. Every emotion that I'm ever feeling is all over my damn face all the time and I can't lie for shit. I wind up a stuttering flibber da jibbet.
        Makes it very hard to get time off of work :)
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        Tue, June 21, 2005 - 3:54 AM
        "They need to love us first, and not the reverse. "

        - you mean, before they love themselves, or before WE love them?
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      Sun, June 12, 2005 - 6:04 PM
      star fish I never thought about the side of there being two fish....DUH, I guess that explains a lot,lol
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        Tue, June 14, 2005 - 9:09 AM
        it's a constant struggle with each fish going in different direction...hence people think we are wishy washy and undecided about things sometimes...they don't understand that most of the time we see both sides of things. they also cant comprehend how we can do one thing one time and then turn around and do the oposite, i've been called contradictive lots of times...but that's just a very narrow way of looking at things from their point of view.

        for me it's been about connecting the two fish. sorta like yin and yang, they are different but they have a part of each other in them and are always present at the same time...spinning (swimming) in harmony.
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    Tue, June 21, 2005 - 9:29 AM
    what's f*cked up about being a friggin pisces is that, I know someone already said this, but that everyone's feelings are put first. and it's expected that the person will reciprocate, but it doesn't happen. well, that's what happens with me anyway. hate it! i always set myself up. =( like now. thinking about someone and hoping that he'll give me back the same attention, but it doesn't happen. grrrr.
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      Thu, June 23, 2005 - 10:17 AM
      Hello,

      I agree with the things that you all say totally, but add to it this:

      I am a creep magnet. I attract all of the over-bearing control freaks, most significantly my ex-husband. I can spot the ego-centric, manipulative, controlling a-hol*s a mile away now. Sure, I have somewhat of a complex now, as I lived with him for 5 years and he was constantly sending his negative narcassistic personality disorder vibes toward me. I was the perfect extention to his ego, the perfect supply of empathy for his needs. And yes, I was impressionable and wishy-washy, because of my old inate trust in human kind. He was an aries gone insane.
      The really messed up thing is that I attract these type of people all the time. It's like a curse! While I am now cynical for awhile at least, my personality has undergone some changes, for the better, I think, as in sticking up for myself, and trying to be less of a "source" to my "friends" that would love to keep me as such. I find myself still falling into the Pisces trap of thinking that everyone is inherently good, when in fact it seems like my soul purpose and life lesson that I must learn is that they are not, and I get smacked in the face every time. I draw to me people that make me feel like crap, and a lot of these are friends I've had for a long time that still expect me to the passive whiny 'victim' my ex made me out to be. When I call them out on it, they get all defensive like "What, arn't we friends anymore. I'm just kidding." They are NOT empathetic in the least, and can't understand where I am coming from, no matter how many times I spell it out for them. Its like they want to 'own' me. and these folks are lurking in a circle of really good friends that I actually care about, and to cut the damaging folks off is to cut the good ones off too, as I've recently noticed. all right, I know, I need to find new friends. So that is about 1/12 of my testimony.
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        Thu, June 23, 2005 - 10:56 AM
        i was married to a cancer for 5 years... all the usual pisces complaints, but after splitting up and learning about ourselves we're close friends, after that i had a 34 yr old aries (bitter cancer victim) roommate, had a full overflowing dose of the pisces complaints (seriously taken advantage of, pushed over, etc. I had to kick him out, which is the first time I've taken intense action for my own safety and it did wonders for my self-esteem, even if it was the hardest thing i've ever done!).... I really have felt jaded after, but am HAPPY to say my idealism is returning slowly, it feels so much better than staying jaded, especially since I can remember the lessons i've learned from it, like maintaining boundaries from teh get-go, it is a hard thing to learn, i think for us in particular, it's not like many parents are into actually teaching their kids how to be self-sustained, so we have to learn ourselves (that goes for most everyone).

        As for balance with the idealism... it helps me to keep in mind that what everyone's most basic desire is for love and acceptance. people act out of that, or out of fear of not having it. if we could all be honest about that, and i mean ALL, then i think all ikkiness would die out. But keeping that in mind helps me to 'see it like it is' and make an effective decision in how to handle my interrelations with others... listening is good, knowing onesself and respecting that first is essential... empathy is good, allowing ourselves to be walked on isn't.

        I find that us pisceans are fairly magnetic, people love us, feel like they've known us forever... then they want our attentions exlusively. No, I'm sorry, I don't owe you a thing, but I do owe myself empathy and respect, and if you can't handle taht...
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          Thu, June 23, 2005 - 11:46 AM
          I can't wait to get to that point. And honestly, I WAS pathetic. I have gotten so much better. It just irks me that the very same people that berrate you with 'antagonism' get so taken aback when you (even in the gentlest of ways) assert your long overdue shut the h*ll up! (In undeserved gentler terms of course). I suppose I will get the hang of not feeling bad immediatly afterward due to the 'obligation' facter that these people seem to be able to hold over my head for an indefinate imaginary indebtedness that I apparently owe them.
          !
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          Mon, July 4, 2005 - 10:57 AM
          >>>I find that us pisceans are fairly magnetic, people love us, feel like they've known us forever... then they want our attentions exlusively. No, I'm sorry, I don't owe you a thing, but I do owe myself empathy and respect, and if you can't handle taht...

          mmmmm..yesssss! i love this paragraph amarra and will post it on my fridge to remember.

          i do find that people love us but very soon hate us when they can't get what they want from us or fit us into their image of what they expect (funny how anyone should even attempt to do such to another being even more so a pisces!)...and unfortunately we have a habit of blaming ourselves for it...guilt in turn ends up attracting punishment and so on.....


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            Tue, July 5, 2005 - 2:09 AM
            Hi guys, I'm new to this tribe. I just wanted to say that this tribe is awesome. I'm excited to be part of it. The intuition, the feelings, points of view. I can relate to all of this.
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              Tue, July 5, 2005 - 8:48 AM
              welcome Arlette! Post away!
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                Fri, July 15, 2005 - 9:43 AM
                i've been totally resisting this thread but I have to admit that right now I have NO patience for the whole self-deception thing. Seeing the world through rose-colored glasses makes for a fun party girl but I've totally managed to create a personal hell for myself.
                I'm not in touch with my Piscean intuition.
                I've lost trust in my own judgement.

                yes, it's a story of love gone sour. I made assumptions, didn't ask enough questions, saw what I BELIEVED to be true, didn't realize that I was acting that way--again, dammit--
                I can meditate and post affirmations everywhere and read self-help and psychology and burn sage and chant Awareness is the Key
                but right now I feel pessimistic and pissed off as all hell.
                i'm totally sick of dealing with indecision and so disgusted, realizing after the fact that ONCE AGAIN I failed to act in my own best interests, created a situation where I wound up getting hurt.
                oh yeah, and addictive qualities---don't get me started on that. Last year a shamanic counselor told me I'm addicted to my fear. how the hell am I going to get past that one? it's not like quitting smoking or drinking, it's IN MY HEAD.
                whew.
                okay, i feel a little better getting that off my chest. I think I'm going to go out in the driveway and smash some rocks for awhile.
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                  Fri, July 15, 2005 - 10:45 AM
                  addictions are in your head as well. pisces are made strong so they can deal with their intuition. you will be a fearless dreamer of dreams. nope, not a fish, just have a new fish in my life & she's taught me sooo much about how amazing you fishies can be!
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                  Fri, July 15, 2005 - 2:15 PM
                  buy some plates from a penny store and smash em...there is something wildly pleasing about the sound of breaking glass!
                  did that with a roomie years ago, thank you so much for reminding me of that prescious moment! seriously, feeling and accepting your self in all kinds of way is empowering. you are one empowered lady.

                  anger is a sign of being intruded upon, fear is there telling us we are standing at a door of something new.

                  don't feel like you gotta post in my happy thread either...where there is balance there are extremes...and vice versa.
                  we can't ignore that...and who cares if everyone thinks we are contradicting in the process.

                  nothing wrong with telling everyone to fuck off once in a while and rebelling against everythng you've ever said and done so you wipe your slate clean and start new...those that hang on will be confused...but that's their own problem cause they are hanging on and dragging you down. we tend to set ourselves up a bit this way...but oh well. those that trully understand and love you will get a breath of fresh air, maybe have a little laugh at you...

                  here's to being free and a happy smashing session..!
                  damn,do i ever miss having a driveway!
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                    Fri, July 15, 2005 - 3:36 PM
                    hahaha, here's the rest of the story
                    (thread here: indecisiveness, or resolving to do one thing and then doing something entirely different)

                    I have a big heavy hammer that used to belong to my dad. when I was a kid and would find it I would take it out in the driveway and smash gravel. all the rocks looked prettier on the inside.
                    (of course, I would do it at the end of the driveway and the parents would have to back their cars over the shrapnel...*shrug* ;)

                    so I went out to the garage for the hammer and never got around to doing that. I live with my brother (such a Virgo and such a slob) and realized that the cool workbench we built a couple of weeks ago hasn't been covered with piles of shit yet...so I went forward with a project I've wanted to do for a year and built a fire hula hoop!!!
                    I still need to wrap the hoop with heat resistant tape and leather but it's finally constructed. YAAAAAAAAAAY
                    at last I'll be the hooping fire goddess!!

                    I think sometimes I run out of steam on a project because I think it's going to be a failure. but this one, I think, even though it's my first hoop, is really solid.
                    now I can make a really bitchen leather costume. I want to make a leather top and skirt from turquoise leather...maybe I can find a skirt at the thrift store...and trim it with rhinestones so i can be the firedancing water goddess. The Flame at the Bottom of the Ocean

                    so thank you for the support and kind words. i'm a triple water sign (cancer moon and cancer rising) so i can be pretty emotional.

                    hee hee! i have a fire hoop! hee hee!
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                      Fri, July 15, 2005 - 4:40 PM
                      this is what i looove about pisces - the ability to switch gears - to take something so miserable and defeating and transform into something so fucking creative!

                      wow, speaking of making full circles ;-P
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                      Fri, July 15, 2005 - 4:50 PM
                      cancer moon and cancer rising? yep, i can relate, my partner and daughter are both cancer.....my daughter was born on the full moon. i hav a lot of air in me so that gives me a bit of escape with those two...i say this lovingly of course ;-P

                      we have many tides...and tide pools.... just don't poke the star fish! :-0

                      sometimes i'm very drawn to fire for the same reason. this is why i used to smoke = fire+earth, quit that almost a year ago and thinking of doing some fire poi - tennis balls on strings are getting boring.
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    Sun, July 17, 2005 - 12:51 PM
    now it's my turn!!!

    being misunderstood and then blamed for being defensive for explaining myself...grrrrrr....i hate being passively aggressively cornered...

    seems like i've had a week of that.

    luckily we are two fish. just try cornering both of us! ;-P
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    Wed, June 10, 2009 - 4:37 PM
    I hate getting into a dispute with a more vocal and aggressive person in speech that has no problem whatsoever expressing what they want to say, while I know what I feel and don't know how to say it. It makes me feel slow and incapable, and makes the other person feel like they can just run all over you.
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    Tue, June 23, 2009 - 1:49 AM
    I dont think it's a case of "whats fucked up about being a pisces?" but rather "what ISN'T fucked up about being a pisces...."

    I've got pisces all over my birthchart, it's a pain in the arse!!!!!!!! for me anyway.
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    Tue, June 23, 2009 - 2:40 PM
    hmmmmm? I'm sensitive, but more energy field, broad overall sensitive. I've noticed very few people unload on me emotionally and when they do I have no idea what to say. I kinda figure I can't do much regarding other people.
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    Tue, June 23, 2009 - 3:53 PM
    im a total escapist...
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      Tue, June 23, 2009 - 10:20 PM
      You know, I'm slowly starting to get out of that escapist mode though its not always easy
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        Thu, June 25, 2009 - 2:30 AM
        heard that -

        if I had to consider what's F'd up about being a pisces (triple no doubt) -
        sensetivity, believing delusion when someone lies which is hard agaist the almost psychic abilities, empathy can really be hard to take others shit on - and remembering to turn it down from 11 to 2 on the dial of intesity and not taking things so personally - more grounded helps..
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          Mon, June 29, 2009 - 2:02 AM
          "sensetivity, believing delusion when someone lies which is hard agaist the almost psychic abilities, empathy can really be hard to take others shit on - and remembering to turn it down from 11 to 2 on the dial of intesity and not taking things so personally - more grounded helps.."

          that pretty much sums it up I think, I have the sun in pisces in the 8th house, mars in pisces in the 8th house and bloody mercury in pisces (thankfully not in the 8th house though!!!)

          I am so sensitive to other people that all I have to do is stand next to someone (even a complete stranger) and I'll start taking on their energy. I'm like a sponge and I hate it, I can be in a perfectly good mood then I'll stand next to someone who isn't and thats it - my good mood evaporates. I pick up so many "vibes" and emotions from people that I come away physically drained and really quite low (that's actually happened to me this morning!) I am a relatively sociable person but i feel that every time i put myself in a social situation I am rarely myself because all i do is soak up others shit.....your bad mood, my bad mood. If someone is uncomfortable or negative then I'll feel it too. I dont know where I begin and the other person ends sometimes!!!!

          I have Leo Rising and I feel such a conflict between the outgoing, showy, fiery lion and the sensitive, intuitive, empethatic pisces.....it's like an inner battle for me. I'll stop there but theres so much more i could say......
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    Tue, July 7, 2009 - 1:47 PM
    what's f***ed? It is the fact that you, Pisces, are so changeable!!! One day were angels and the second day, smiling, dismiss any feeling that someone, of course, who loves you shared with you. ... but you have such a beautiful smile!!!

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