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Hey guys,
Fair enough, scorps are pretty emotional but from your experience, how would you rate the degree of 'emotionality' (I know that's not a word) of scorpios and the fishies and the crabs.
Maybe with the fishies it's more dwelling than being emotional or perhaps with the fishes it's more of a suffering/ dwelling on the negative.
What do you think?
Fair enough, scorps are pretty emotional but from your experience, how would you rate the degree of 'emotionality' (I know that's not a word) of scorpios and the fishies and the crabs.
Maybe with the fishies it's more dwelling than being emotional or perhaps with the fishes it's more of a suffering/ dwelling on the negative.
What do you think?
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 10:19 AMOf the 3 water signs, I think that Pisceans feel emotions the strongest. Sure Scorp and Cancer have strong feelings, but Pisceans can sense others feelings as well as their own. It's easy to be overwhelmed by the sensory overload of strong emotions when you are a fish.
I'm very careful here in my old age to be cautious of who's feelings I connect with because certain people are painful to connect with on that level. I have an aversion to what I like to call "ouch cube" people who wallow in their own self pity or are purposefully depressive. Those are feelings within myself that I seek to let go of, and don't need to suck them in from the outside.
Scorps and Cancers have good empathic abilities as well, but the Ego is so strong in both those signs they can often ignore the importance of others feelings. I have a tendency to stare at others feelings like they are an 800 pound gorilla sitting in the middle of the room with us. Especially if there is drama involved. -
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Tue, October 16, 2007 - 11:16 AMyes, but pisces is more the master of letting go than scorpio or cancer. -
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Tue, October 16, 2007 - 12:04 PM<yes, but pisces is more the master of letting go than scorpio or cancer.>
Yes, you must learn to let go or face eternal existential meltdown!
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Fri, October 19, 2007 - 7:16 AMTo me, I make a distinction between "feelings" and "emotions." "Feelings" are like weather....they flow through my soul. I believe that Pisces people have feelings like the Ocean.....sometimes light and breezy, a million kinds of weather, sometimes unfathomable. I believe that no feelings are wrong. They are just feelings. You can DO something with 'em (let them inspire you to art, music, love, dancing, singing, etc.) or you can let them go; but FEELING them is essential.
Words from Astrologer David Pond:
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The Sun in Pisces, the spiritual, the deep, the profound, the compassionate, the feeling and sensitive and definitely artistic. Pisces has this gift of imagination and imagery. The two fishes: one swimming on the surface, interacting with the outer world, just as everybody else does. And the other fish, swimming in the deeper, inner private waters. How you relate to those 2 fishes is gonna tell a lot about your well-being. When people fight that and try not to have an inner world, as the world they grew up in, most guys, I guess, and many women, believe that moods and emotions and inward turning introspective energy, well, that’s not popular, that’s not the way. We celebrate the extroverts in our culture: “Ya gotta be up and sunny and bright and happy-go-lucky all the time, otherwise, we’ll fix you, we got programs that try to help water-sign people not be watery.” ;-)
But water is meant to be watery. If we look at the chart as a blueprint to what the soul intended. To be Pisces is to know these currents of your inner emotional world, the two fishes, and to move with them. When the spirit moves, the high tide pulls you into the outer world and it will, and you’re flirtatious and playful and interactive and communicative--Great! And when you feel this tug to the inner world, hopefully you surrender to that current and creatively engage the inner world. Spiritual rituals, meditations, prayers and practices of all sort, artistic expression, quality alone time.
So this, I suspect that you have done pretty good. Sometimes we have a split identity with Pisces, the two fishes, don’t we? It’s like you have this one world, and then a secret world. Well, it seems that your part of your job is to integrate the two more and more throughout this life.
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Emotions, to me, are more a case of "reacting" to the feelings, to be “MOVED” by the feelings.. One "emotes." I can cry at the drop of a hat....but I tend to do this at strange and inappropriate times. When I hear a song, read a story, watch a movie, I totally get absorbed into it (if it is good!). I remember when I was little, my Mom would have to come shake me and say, "It's just a MOVIE....!" I'd be so wrought up with all the emotions of the story, I'd forget who I was! (I still do!)
At other times, I can be totally calm when everyone around is losing their head. I'm good in emergencies. This COULD be from my Moon in Aquarius or Virgo Rising or Venus in Aquarius....but I give my Pisces Sun credit, too.
Pisces is a watery sign and (at least in my life) NEEDS to cry, and NEEDS to laugh, and NEEDS to FEEL all the different feelings that flow through. It's an OCEANIC FLOW...............................
Of course, at work, at my job, I must repress this tendency. I have to be "business-like." It's kinda like being an Actor. In fact, I have learned a LOT from a book called: ___Acting Techniques for Everyday Life: Look and Feel Self-Confident in Difficult, Real-Life Situations___by Jane Marla Robbins. Another book that has helped me is Harriet Lerner's ___The Dance of Connection: How to Talk to Someone When You're Mad, Hurt, Scared, Frustrated, Insulted, Betrayed, or Desperate__.
Also, taking Assertiveness classes and Communications workshops helps me get past my emotionality enough to be able to speak to people in a calm, easy way, as well as to do some public speaking. But I still have a long way to go.....................;-)
Right now, I’m reading __The Astonishing Power of Emotions: Let Your Feelings Be Your Guide__ by Esther and Jerry Hicks, which is giving me yet another way to work with my feelings and emotions. It has to do with the “energy” potential of feelings. Here’s a quote from “Abraham,” the source for the book’s message:
“You are creators, and you are vibrational beings. You are more about electronics; you are more about electricity; you are more about vibration than you are about the physical stuff that you think you are about. This physical stuff that you think you are about is all vibrational.”
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Fri, October 19, 2007 - 9:30 AM<“You are creators, and you are vibrational beings. You are more about electronics; you are more about electricity; you are more about vibration than you are about the physical stuff that you think you are about. This physical stuff that you think you are about is all vibrational.”
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This is why fishy peeps be made of music. Vibrations arranged in a clever fashion that can create and control emotions. How much more fishy could music be?
It's a like having a magic power to play a song and have everyone in the room chill out immediately. Or jump up and start dancing wildly. You can use it to create chaos or order. Calm or aggression. Hot water or cold. Not too much hot water, I might start to cook! -
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Sat, October 20, 2007 - 11:12 AMWow...I *love* that! Makes me want to run out and learn other instruments. Currently I only hand drum, and I used to play a bass guitar a lifetime ago. These days I'm just obsessed with making playlists on my 'puter.... -
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Sat, October 20, 2007 - 12:33 PMyou "ONLY hand drum"!!! Wow, girl, that's a LOT right there! To me, bass is simply another form of drumming. Have you ever played the Washtub Bass? That's an interesting instrument. I played it for a while. ;-) My roommate played the jug and my other roommate played the jew's harp. We were pretty terrible! :-) But I DID play a pretty mean kazoo!
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Sat, October 20, 2007 - 1:03 PMThis is all great, great stuff! How profound!
Happy fish support like this exists!!!! -
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Sat, October 20, 2007 - 6:04 PMLessons learned here at the School of Fish can be quite helpful and useful. Fish support hehe i love it...
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Sat, October 20, 2007 - 6:34 PMYeah, bass and drum has a *very* similar feel. Some dude once told me girls who play bass are over sexed...lol.
Btw...kazoos rock.
I forgot that I play a mean tambourine, chica chica egg & maraca....::grin:: -
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Sat, October 20, 2007 - 7:36 PMI will say one thing I HAVE learned to do over the years in dealing with my emotions is to try to channel all of that stuff into something positive. My mom is a Cancer and as much as I love her, she has a pretty big goddamn chip on her shoulder that she has been carrying around for 35 years probably. She doesn't come off that way 100 percent of the time but.....
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Sun, October 21, 2007 - 8:09 AMHee hee! I LOVE tamborine and maracas!! (I've seen that "chica chica" thang...but never knew what to CALL it before. "Chica Chica" sounds perfect....like the sound it makes.)
BTW, I used to OBSESSED with maracas! I must have played them in another life. When I was about 6 years old, I helped an old lady clean out her attic with my neighbor friend (Lorraine) who was about the same age as I. The lady said we could keep the maracas that were souveniers from her trip to Cuba! I took one and Lorraine took the other. I had that maraca for a long long time! Now I have one that was handmade by a magickal woman named "Springs" in Hawaii. Her website is: www.powersthatbe.com
I learned later that maracas were originally hollowed-out gourds with seeds or bones inside. In many cultures, they serve as spiritual instruments. They were often used for ceremonies in which healing takes place, especially a kind of healing that brings the community together. I liked Mickey Hart's quote: "Drums and drumming aren’t just for rhythm masters. They’re for everybody. They’re for kids and they’re for grannies. They’re for everyone who wants to share sound and rhythm. On a simple basis, just like beating together and playing. Especially in a learned groove. Just being in the groove together. It’s really empowering and also gives a sense of well-being. It uplifts the spirit and allows for the healing process, and that’s basically what I pitched to the senate. You know, for rhythm therapy." (His great book __Planet Drum__ talks about this.)
Another great book is: ___When the Drummers Were Women: A Spiritual History of Rhythm___by Layne Redmond (herself a frame drummer). It will explain the cultural prejudice against women drummers that is now dissolving....
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Sun, October 21, 2007 - 8:57 PMYeah, I'm heavily involved in drumming at burns for fire spinners and dancers, regular drum circles, seasonal rituals and sometimes just by myself on a beach. It feels like my heartbeat coming out to play....or Gaia's heartbeat coming up through my legs and out of my arms...
When the Drummers Were Women: A Spiritual History of Rhythm___by Layne Redmond is an AMAZING book and everyone should read it at least once. -
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Tue, October 23, 2007 - 11:26 AMI love drummers, drummers are great!
They eat raw meat, hit on my women, smoke my cigarettes, beat on things for a living and still get a ride home from me at the end of the gig.
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 10:55 AMwhat do you call someone who hangs out with musicians?
A drummer!
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Sat, October 20, 2007 - 8:54 PMI think scorps very much "show" or "wear" their emotions on their sleeves. The men seem extremely moody and brooding, while the women are lively and outgoing. Cancers? Totally bottle it all up inside.
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Sun, October 21, 2007 - 9:37 AMi bet alot of these things have to do with the fact that us pisces are a mutable sign, and scorpio is fixed...........we flow with it. -
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Sun, October 21, 2007 - 8:55 PMDoesn't always work that way when you have Scorp as your moon sign tho. -
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 2:29 PMScorpion venom has it's uses. It works as a great defensive tool, and makes a dandy offensive weapon as well. Never let a scorpio ride on your back across a river. The scorpian's nature is to sting and kill. You will both end up drowning.
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 11:06 AMi have scorpio as my moon sign as a matter of fact.........you can move on to a state of unconditional love and forgiveness.........forgiveness and letting go..........good stuff.
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 12:56 AMWeird.... Cancer here....never knew we bottled up our emotions! Though I will say I am very private with them.... and tend to talk them out... and keep them to myself and the select few. I always wondered if that is one of our traits.... Talking to ourselves outloud!
So guess that could be bottled up so bottoms up!
* Personal Note.... Why does it matter who is more emotional? We all swim in the sea.... And have our own highs and lows.... All like the tides and the Oceans, the changes in the phases of the Moon.... towards transformation into the unknown.
I don't know if the spirit and the soul really discrimates.... and chooses who gets the crown! As all 3 signs kind of fuction on a different kind of wavelength.. and level.... What is "higher" and what is "lower" is all personal bias.... -
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Thu, October 25, 2007 - 1:10 AM"What is "higher" and what is "lower" is all personal bias...."
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 9:10 AMScorpians have a tough exoskeleton, Cancers have a powerful shell to retreat into. Fish are scaly and tough on the outside, but tender and delicious on the inside. Let's face it, eating sashimi is like eating butter sometimes.
Don't have quite the same armor that the other watery folks have. Being born practically naked in a sometimes hostile environment is challenging. You come up for air sometimes and get harpooned or snatched up by a large brown bear. Or if you take the wrong bait, you end up in a net or on a hook.
The only place us fish have to retreat to is the deep inner waters inside us.
A lot of survival for us fishy ones involves acute empathy, mental dexterity and the ability to read others moves before they make them. That's why I've got to move, before i get caught! -
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Mon, November 12, 2007 - 2:14 AMHmm,
I've always felt like if you put a Pisces in a void, they'd be totally content.
What I mean by that is that Pisces are empaths. We feel what's going on around us and more often than not, internalize these feelings and start believing that they are our own. I mean, how many times have you asked a fish what's wrong and they don't *really* know? They probably are feeling global sadness, or global depression or global anger and not neccesarily realizing it.
Because of the empathic nature, there is also a strong tendency to escape from environments that are emotionally 'too much' I think because there is a strong instinct as to what we can handle and what we can't.
We are also the only water sign that doesn't have an exosceleton!
And yes, I do think we are better at letting go. More so than we give ourselves credit for. I've seen Cancers brood into eternity and Scorpios hold there silent treatments forever but Pisces...? I think we forget what we were upset about half of the time ;) -
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Re: emotionality of us fishes
Mon, November 12, 2007 - 8:43 AMyup,I can't hold a grudge
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